Black salt audio clipper

[Lost to the Void]

BSA are doing a deal on their clipper, it's pretty good, everyone needs at least 1 good clipper
https://www.blacksaltaudio.com/clipper/

[ozias_leduc]

curious as to how this would compare to say... ableton saturator with the digital clip algo?

never thought clipping would be the thing you'd need a 3rd party plugin for

presumably there's more to it than what i thought?

[Lost to the Void]

curious as to how this would compare to say... ableton saturator with the digital clip algo?

never thought clipping would be the thing you'd need a 3rd party plugin for

presumably there's more to it than what i thought?

I don`t think the ableton saturator is a particularly good clipper, it`s very hard to be accurate, and it`s hard to tell what it is doing unless you follow it with some kind of dynamics meter.
Clippers are really important in mixing. I use Standardclip all the time, it`s a little more expensive but by far the best out there.
https://www.siraudiotools.com/StandardCLIP.php

[Bradley1602]

I have never really heard of the concept of clipping? Is that like a limiter? Whats the difference? Just curious…

[loug]

That Standardclip looks impressive, so much detail and info. I've used Voxengo's clipper, the one included in the Tokyo Dawn's limiter, and kclip from Kazrog, What do you guys think about those? The one I always use is Tokyo Dawn's.

[Lost to the Void]

I have never really heard of the concept of clipping? Is that like a limiter? Whats the difference? Just curious…

Limiting changes the dynamics
Clipping just chops off the peaks at the point you select, there is no gain change. Clipping can be very clean.
It's a good way to prepare audio to hit your compressor or limiters as, if you clip super fast transients down, then your compressor/limiter can relax and do its job as it won't be trying to react to ridiculous transients.

[Lost to the Void]

That Standardclip looks impressive, so much detail and info. I've used Voxengo's clipper, the one included in the Tokyo Dawn's limiter, and kclip from Kazrog, What do you guys think about those? The one I always use is Tokyo Dawn's.

I don't find Kazrog clean or fine enough for limiting, I use it more for mangling. Never tried voxengo, I love TDR stuff, and for some reason I don't have their limiter. I would imagine it is accurate and useful. Depends on the metering. How is the metering?

[loug]

That Standardclip looks impressive, so much detail and info. I've used Voxengo's clipper, the one included in the Tokyo Dawn's limiter, and kclip from Kazrog, What do you guys think about those? The one I always use is Tokyo Dawn's.

I don't find Kazrog clean or fine enough for limiting, I use it more for mangling. Never tried voxengo, I love TDR stuff, and for some reason I don't have their limiter. I would imagine it is accurate and useful. Depends on the metering. How is the metering?

"EBU R128 compliant peak and loudness meter including the loudness range extension."
Most of the time gives me all the readings I need, but even if it looks pretty much the same as the metering in the Standardclip, the readings in the TDR's limiter are not just for the output of the clipper, but for all the modules included in the limiter (a compressor, the clipper and a peak limiter).

[Lost to the Void]

That Standardclip looks impressive, so much detail and info. I've used Voxengo's clipper, the one included in the Tokyo Dawn's limiter, and kclip from Kazrog, What do you guys think about those? The one I always use is Tokyo Dawn's.

I don't find Kazrog clean or fine enough for limiting, I use it more for mangling. Never tried voxengo, I love TDR stuff, and for some reason I don't have their limiter. I would imagine it is accurate and useful. Depends on the metering. How is the metering?

"EBU R128 compliant peak and loudness meter including the loudness range extension."
Most of the time gives me all the readings I need, but even if it looks pretty much the same as the metering in the Standardclip, the readings in the TDR's limiter are not just for the output of the clipper, but for all the modules included in the limiter (a compressor, the clipper and a peak limiter).

Well the Standardclip has a clip meter that you can set the range, so you can really do fine tuning, can you set the range on the TDR?
You also get a waveform display that actually shows what you are clipping on the Standardclip, so it makes it really good to get in and do fine tuning.
I guess what I am asking is, does the TDR have that ultrafine level of tuning and detail in the clipper, or will it offer me nothing over the Standardclip?

[Bradley1602]

I have never really heard of the concept of clipping? Is that like a limiter? Whats the difference? Just curious…

Limiting changes the dynamics
Clipping just chops off the peaks at the point you select, there is no gain change. Clipping can be very clean.
It's a good way to prepare audio to hit your compressor or limiters as, if you clip super fast transients down, then your compressor/limiter can relax and do its job as it won't be trying to react to ridiculous transients.

Why has there been so little focus on this in terms of general buzz around the topic like comps and limiters?

[loug]

I don't find Kazrog clean or fine enough for limiting, I use it more for mangling. Never tried voxengo, I love TDR stuff, and for some reason I don't have their limiter. I would imagine it is accurate and useful. Depends on the metering. How is the metering?

"EBU R128 compliant peak and loudness meter including the loudness range extension."
Most of the time gives me all the readings I need, but even if it looks pretty much the same as the metering in the Standardclip, the readings in the TDR's limiter are not just for the output of the clipper, but for all the modules included in the limiter (a compressor, the clipper and a peak limiter).

Well the Standardclip has a clip meter that you can set the range, so you can really do fine tuning, can you set the range on the TDR?
You also get a waveform display that actually shows what you are clipping on the Standardclip, so it makes it really good to get in and do fine tuning.
I guess what I am asking is, does the TDR have that ultrafine level of tuning and detail in the clipper, or will it offer me nothing over the Standardclip?

You can set the range and loudness scale among other things, but nothing like the waveform display which looks so detailed and useful, so I doubt the metering alone will make you get away from the Standardclip. The quality is top notch though, TDR stuff is good.

[loug]

Just opened my TDR clipper, you can set the peak and loudness ranges, scale (absolute/relative) and zero LU point.

[orchard]

Not that I've used it yet but there is the free Venn audio clipper https://www.vennaudio.com/free-clip/
and they have one with more features which I'm sure has been mentioned here before https://www.vennaudio.com/product/v-clip/

[Lost to the Void]

I have never really heard of the concept of clipping? Is that like a limiter? Whats the difference? Just curious…

Limiting changes the dynamics
Clipping just chops off the peaks at the point you select, there is no gain change. Clipping can be very clean.
It's a good way to prepare audio to hit your compressor or limiters as, if you clip super fast transients down, then your compressor/limiter can relax and do its job as it won't be trying to react to ridiculous transients.

Why has there been so little focus on this in terms of general buzz around the topic like comps and limiters?

It`s secret sauce/mastering black magick, so you don`t hear so much about it, it all started in mastering with clipping converters. Hush hush, keep it Subsekt.

[Lost to the Void]

Just opened my TDR clipper, you can set the peak and loudness ranges, scale (absolute/relative) and zero LU point.

Nice, I`ll probably buy it as I`ve never tried the limiter, and I`m always interested in different limiters. I like to support TDR too, they make really good tools. The Kotelnikov gets used daily in the mastering room. The Delta function alone is so amazing I don`t know why all compressor vst`s don`t have it.

[loug]

Just opened my TDR clipper, you can set the peak and loudness ranges, scale (absolute/relative) and zero LU point.

Nice, I`ll probably buy it as I`ve never tried the limiter, and I`m always interested in different limiters. I like to support TDR too, they make really good tools. The Kotelnikov gets used daily in the mastering room. The Delta function alone is so amazing I don`t know why all compressor vst`s don`t have it.

Same here, TDR stuff is great, next in my list is the updated version of their Molot compressor

[Aureliano]

DMG TrackLimit is also a nice option.

[Bradley1602]

Limiting changes the dynamics
Clipping just chops off the peaks at the point you select, there is no gain change. Clipping can be very clean.
It's a good way to prepare audio to hit your compressor or limiters as, if you clip super fast transients down, then your compressor/limiter can relax and do its job as it won't be trying to react to ridiculous transients.

Why has there been so little focus on this in terms of general buzz around the topic like comps and limiters?

It`s secret sauce/mastering black magick, so you don`t hear so much about it, it all started in mastering with clipping converters. Hush hush, keep it Subsekt.

Dont tell metallica about it…
World doesnt need anotr black album