Modular Beep

[mainst09]

Hey guys, i always tried to do this kind of modular beep,don't know if this name is correct,but i tried so many times,and for hours to do this kind of sound,that im just sick of searching for it and never finding it,how you think this sound was made,per example on this track from mattias fridell,i guess this one was made with analogue hardware,but i don't have any,so any tips on how to do it in a DAW?

Here it is the track:

youtu.be/S9YrHjtdpkE

the sound im looking for starts at 0:34.

[Bondar]

Sounds like just a sine wave. S+H to pitch might be what you're looking for

[Críoch]

I think its just a midi part with hi-res?

Not sure of the wave. Hmmm

Mattias is good - but he'd have to be really lucky to get a S&H of that perfect riff? haha

Does have a S&H vibe off it alright

[mainst09]

oh my god,it's so fucking easy,i found it hahah,well i didn't found it,but almost there haha.
but this LFO things is random and when i deactivate de "R" From random on operator it's still random...

[Críoch]

What wave Pedro? Is it a sine?

I dont think S&H LFO is the way to go if thats what you are doing. Waaaaaay too random.

Haha - Will be interesting to see what Mattias says ;D

[Hades]

oh my god,it's so fucking easy,i found it hahah,well i didn't found it,but almost there haha.
but this LFO things is random and when i deactivate de "R" From random on operator it's still random...

I'm not around Live for the moment, but I'm guessing the "R" is probably for "Retrigger",
if activated it means the LFO gets retriggered with every new key that gets pushed.
if not activated, the LFO keeps on free-running.
With an S&H waveform that won't have much effect at all,
but with other LFO waveforms it does.

[Hades]

ow, and btw : an S&H LFo will always be random normally.
There's no non-random S&H as far as I know.

can't listen to the sound for the moment,
but if the pitch changes seemingly random, but it's still a sort of returning melody, then I'd try to use a step sequencer.
If the notes seem to change at the speed of the track, but still random, then it can be done with S&H but synced to tempo of the track.

[Hades]

Just had a listen to the sound.
You don't need hardware at all for something like this.
You can do sounds like this with any kind of synth with the right modulators, and otherwise you could try to achieve a similar effect by using clip envelopes as a sort of LFO-surrogates and/or step sequencer.

It's too repetitive so it'c ertainly not done with an S&H
I'd use a step sequencer and start messing with that.
You might also have fun results if you use 2 downwards Saw LFO's and put them out of phase of each other and make the first modulate the pitch a bit more than the 2nd.
That will give you a similar kind of "walk down walk a little back up walk down walk a little back up" - melody like it is a bit in the track above.

[Mattias]

I love those types of sounds, perfect for spacey vibes.
There are lots of ways to make these types of sequences really.

In this case it's no hardware, and certainly no S&H involved. It's NI Massive. I can double check exactly what I did in this tune but I'm pretty sure I just used 2 OSC with wavetable turned to a Sinewave then the pitch of the first OSC is modulated by one ADSR unit and the second OSC is modulated by LFO and both OSC goes to the step sequencer in Massive.

[Akkya]

I love those types of sounds, perfect for spacey vibes.
There are lots of ways to make these types of sequences really.

In this case it's no hardware, and certainly no S&H involved. It's NI Massive. I can double check exactly what I did in this tune but I'm pretty sure I just used 2 OSC with wavetable turned to a Sinewave then the pitch of the first OSC is modulated by one ADSR unit and the second OSC is modulated by LFO and both OSC goes to the step sequencer in Massive.

TA-DAAA

nice ...

[mainst09]

ok mattias, i don't have vst's,just the synths from the DAW,but i'll try something similar there.

Thanks for this man

[mainst09]

The things you can do with this sounds...

[Hades]

Jeff Mills uses sounds like that a lot...

[Mattias]

Jeff Mills uses sounds like that a lot...

He sure does and he does it unbelievable well.

[mainst09]

Hello Mattias,
where is the ADSR unit on massive and the LFO i can't find them.

Cheers

[Mattias]

1 ENV 2 ENV 3 ENV 4 ENV 5 LFO 6 LFO and so on.

Remember Massive is semi-modular so you have to route the destinations where you want your ENV to appear etc. Like connect ENV 1 to the OSC 1 pitch and so on

[mainst09]

Oh thanks man

[mainst09]

sorry if im being boring,but where i connect the adsr unit's and lfo?

[Mattias]

Ok so I checked the track and made some screenshots of how I made the sound:

Massive Overview:

rymden1.jpg (119.21 KiB) Viewed 2862 times

Performer 1:

step1.jpg (43.75 KiB) Viewed 2862 times

Performer 2:

perf1.jpg (45.04 KiB) Viewed 2862 times

Step sequencer:

perf2.jpg (49.21 KiB) Viewed 2862 times

So in other words:

Sine OSC1 (+17)Sine OSC2 (+29) with ENV1 modulating their pitch with value -64.
Then Step sequencer modulated both their pitch with +55 on OSC1 and - 55 on OSC2.
Performer 2 & 3 modulated both OSC Amp level.
The filters are 80% Parallel and shares close to the same mix value between them. Filter 1 is Daft and Filter 2 is Acid. Then its just slight chorus added and slight dimension spreader.

[mainst09]

oh ok,this is cool,thanks for this,i will try to do it,just to learn how,then i'll change everything completely because i dont rip or copy tracks from the others,thanks for your time