Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!

Post by **Patriek** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:09 pm

benjaminwilliams wrote:[noob]

i tried to do it with printscreen etc. but i have two screens and no idea how to only print the right screen. Also i do not have the patience to find out.

[/noob]

Start -> cmd -> mspaint
ctrl-v to paste your printscreen
If all goes well, mspaint will display both of your screens.

Lazy southern folks in NL!

Mattias · Post by **Mattias** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:22 pm

Patriek wrote:
Lazy southern folks in NL!

Hahah

Post by **Críoch** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:09 pm

I usually just drag the stuff over to the main screen when I want to print.

Or on windows - alt and "print screen" - will take it of whichever screen is in focus/selected

You PC or Mac?

benjaminwilliams · Post by **benjaminwilliams** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:36 pm

haha patriek you are ever so right

Thanks ICN , im on a pc, I will try it out tomorrow.

But how do i record a videosession? Would be nicer to hear the bass...

Post by **Críoch** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:43 pm

You'll need to do some research on some screen recording software mate. Camstudio is free ( I believe) - but you'll need to do a bit of searching yourself as you need to know what you are doing to record your voice / system audio / soundcard etc..

Its easy enough - but you'll have lots of questions if you dont choose the right software to begin with. I'm not sure what the options are for PC & how much they cost - but y'd want to dig about to see how much you are going to be willing to spend (and whether you can make tutorials in your DAW with them on windows in the first place) before you purchase. So have a look on their forums or send an email outlining what you require to the company.

Hopefully someone here can chip in with PC screen software - but I unfortunately know nothing about it Mate. I use one - but its on Mac.

Post by **Mslwte** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:49 pm

I have a free screen recording program called "hypercam" (or similar) pretty good and easy to use tbh. I just don't like using it lol

Post by **Críoch** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:15 pm

Whoop - We have a winner!

serial · Post by **serial** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:57 pm

it would be nice if we could have few more examples about making bass... school is not over yet!

Post by **Críoch** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:38 pm

If you wanna reignite it mate.. best way is with some screenshots of your own

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:31 am

Now i don't have any screenshots yet but the technique should work with just about
any synth. I always loved the synth driven stuff very much. To get a somewhat classical
bass/lead thing going on (think older umek etc.) - you can generate a random synth line
which goes over 1 bar or half a bar or 1 beat etc. and then arpeggiate that. Then when you have that
pattern established you can create loads of different lines by moving the bassline pattern by 16th steps.

Skipping through some presets (of course you can program your own) should yield you more wicked lines
than you thought you ever needed. Pressing the randomize (notes) on that pattern in your DAW will generate more
and more lines. Pick the wicked ones, filter to taste, record, slice, reverse etc. etc.

Harmonically rich patches lend themselves esp. well to this.

So in essence, randomize and choose wisely. You could try this with DiscoDSPs Phantom for example,
pure wickedness.

Mattias · Post by **Mattias** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:17 pm

Good one Loopdon.

surface · Post by **surface** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:03 am

yeah, nice one.
gonna try that, see what kind basslines i can muster up.
Man, can't wait to get some time over the christmas! ..

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:28 am

Thanks, Mattias.
I just always enjoyed that type of techno and was overcomplicating matters.
And i want to hear more oft that kinda techno, there's more than drums.

Surface, i reckon you should be happy. At least i hope you will be.
The possibilities are endless.

bram2000 · Post by **bram2000** » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:04 pm

loopdon wrote:you can generate a random synth line which goes over 1 bar or half a bar or 1 beat etc. and then arpeggiate that. Then when you have that pattern established you can create loads of different lines by moving the bassline pattern by 16th steps.

When you say random synth line, would that be monophonic or include chords? Do you pay any attention to sticking within a musical key?

Sounds cool but I'm struggling to visualise a little...

Twilitez · Post by **Twilitez** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:11 am

Im currently trying to build a bass out of a resampled hi-hat loop i made that was put through a randomized turnado preset and then recorded while doing some slides on my korg. Now im going to resample it again and turn it into an intstrument, record some filter movement and resample it again. But i digress, me liking randomness doesnt help anyone really.

Since techno tends to have pretty huge kicks often enough, something that helps keeping the low end under control a bit is EQ ducking. Basically you link the output of your kick buss to an EQ on your sub instrument, which has a very tight notch set at the absolute peak frequency of your kick. You can set the band and the notch amount to taste of course, but basically this is a static but very effective way of avoiding some nasty low-end clashes. Obviously you can also use a muted kick to trigger the same effect. Since dynamics in the bass/ sub-bass region are hardly an issue this can be better then normal sidechaining in many cases. I might be kicking in an open door, but maybe this is useful info to someone.

Post by **Críoch** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:36 am

Hey Lee,

I hadn't considered doing that EQ ducking on instruments.. Must give that a go.

Gonna try what Loop was talking about later as well. I think I have an idea what he means.. haha

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:50 pm

bram2000 wrote:
loopdon wrote:you can generate a random synth line which goes over 1 bar or half a bar or 1 beat etc. and then arpeggiate that. Then when you have that pattern established you can create loads of different lines by moving the bassline pattern by 16th steps.
When you say random synth line, would that be monophonic or include chords? Do you pay any attention to sticking within a musical key?

Sounds cool but I'm struggling to visualise a little...

Not chords really, randomization and just picking out the funky bits...

loopdon · Post by **loopdon** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:23 pm

I'll try and upload some examples, tomorrow.
I reckon this stuff is an integral part of techno,
these lines you wouldn't come up with naturally.

You still have to filter what you deem good, so
even if you use presets it will have gone
through your personal filter, so to speak.

rein · Post by **rein** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:45 pm

sidechain eq can be effective at times... but watch out for weird phasing issues. make sure you're able to hear what you're doing down there...

bram2000 · Post by **bram2000** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:29 pm

loopdon wrote:I'll try and upload some examples, tomorrow.
I reckon this stuff is an integral part of techno,
these lines you wouldn't come up with naturally.

Thanks loopdon, an example would be fantastic!

This sounds similar to a technique I've heard someone else describing, but don't think I could really fathom it out then either.

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