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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:33 pm 
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I'm trying to put into practice many of the excellent information i'm finding here in the forum. I don't quite know what i'm doing. I read and try, read and try. I apologize for the various crap I do and i write.
Now i work just on a kick+bass to understand their relationship and learn how to make them sound good.
Is simply another kick with reverb.
Eq + gentle comp on a kick. Eq + saturation on the sub -> Glue comp + a very gentle Eq on the bus. Parallel comp on the bus.
This is the result

Unnecessary overhead of compressors? Crappy eq and overload of the low frequencies?
Any suggestions?
Thanks and sorry again for my frustrating post.
p.s. I don't know whether it is the right place, but I don't want spamming the forum with another kick/bass topic.


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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:49 pm 
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What I've learned here is that you shouldn't overthink stuff. You don't necessarily need super-advanced long chains to create a proper heavy kick/bass etc. It just has to be in the right context. That shit sounds good day.one

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p.s. I don't know whether it is the right place, but I don't want spamming the forum with another kick/bass topic.


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Planar wrote:
day.one wrote:
p.s. I don't know whether it is the right place, but I don't want spamming the forum with another kick/bass topic.


You're a good man.


Amen.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Lost to the Void wrote:


so here is my little demo based around what I said on the first page of this post.

Pics are here to illustrate what I did, don`t judge too harshly, this was thrown together in half an hour.

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Any questions, ask away

I`ve used all ableton plugs, the samples used come with ableton as well. the kick synth is a free vsti, the sonimus satson stuff has been just used to control gain levels and the meter on the master is the only real third party doing anything.


More than one year after :) I wan't to say you thank you ! That's help me a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:30 am 
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Macca wrote:
Could you make a similar rumbly bass sound with a monophonic synth?

I was thinking a sine or square wave with short attack, medium decay and just use a really low note? maybe filter modulation too?



There are ways that you may achive this.

One way is to take a simple sine Fr with a very quick attack and a smooth decay. Then add some gated reverb and boom! More freqs with only one sine wave to start. A second way is to take exactly the same wave and synthesize it through nice old Granular delay. Keep the grain as short as you may and add a small amount of pitch randomnes (about 4 - 6%).
in both cases you have to play really clever with the numbers. Its not that easy as it seems. But I say you give it a try! Exploring new methods is a part of the craft!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Very pure tones aren`t good for rumble, you just end up with old school sub.
So something with at least 2 oscillators is more appropriate.

With everyone sounding increasingly samey, try to not worry about the correct way of generating this sound, do it the weirdest way possible and then just EQ the fucker to fit.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Corpus in Ableton is mental for low stuff..

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Yeah it`s great.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Never really explored Corpus. Now I have to ..


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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Does Corpus comes on a vst ed?


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Does Corpus comes on a vst ed?


Yeah Corpus and Collision are basically a cut down version of of AAS Chromaphone.


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 Post subject: Re: Creating heavy heavy heavy techno sub bass lines!
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Chromaphone doesn't do what Corpus does. Tassman can do what Corpus does and more, I believe, but you'd have to build it yourself in that hideous interface.

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ICN wrote:
Corpus in Ableton is mental for low stuff..

forgot about this - started reexploring - thanks for prompt!

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Obviously, the key is to find the right type of 'sound' setting or whatever they call it.. Pipe, plate, string, beam etc.. And turn the pitch down in corpus. The decay dial helps control it.

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Lost to the Void wrote:
This has been covered and covered and covered and covered here.

One simple method, take a kick, add reverb then some saturation, keep the reverb short, roll off a lot of the highs, maybe give a little boost somewhere between 60 and 120.

Add another kick for clarity over the top with a roll off from 60 down. Boom, job done, Bergein-arama.
Add hi hat, a chordal stab, drag the whole thing out for 6 minutes, release on CLR

Also resampling the big reverbed kick will then give you more control over the whole thing, ie tuning the release.

The trick is to use either compression or saturation to mash the verb into the kick


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