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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:58 am 
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I hate Models is the nuTrance main attraction


I would consider him more into EBM and Darkwave, amazing producer.


I haven't heard anything that fits that description. It all sounds like trance riffs to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Huck Farper wrote:
I hate Models is the nuTrance main attraction


His Warehouse Memories EP on ARTS is very nice.. However his newer stuff i hear just sounds like some cheap shite you'd hear in a tekken game or something.

All be it an amazing producer for sure, but i laugh when i read comments on youtube under some of his stuff - 'DIS IS REAL TECHN0!!!'


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:44 am 
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Huck Farper wrote:
TomasHD wrote:
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I hate Models is the nuTrance main attraction


I would consider him more into EBM and Darkwave, amazing producer.


I haven't heard anything that fits that description. It all sounds like trance riffs to me.


He certainly has a huge influence of those genres, and i would say that he brought into techno some sounds that were quite unknown to the scene.


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:07 pm 
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TomasHD wrote:

and i would say that he brought into techno some sounds that were quite unknown to the scene.


Unless of course you were in to the whole melodic side of techno in the early 00`s with labels such as Bellboy records, Ascend and so on.
He`s just another in a long line of kids regurgitating the past.

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:14 pm 
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I've been unabashedly infatuated with a lot of the neo-trance/melodic techno stuff that has been coming out for the past couple of years.

I would suggest checking out the Realms of Consciousness vol. 1 and vol. 2 compilations on Afterlife, then go after the artists found therein. My absolute favourite is Mind Aganst's Gravity from vol. 1:



Other labels to check out are Anagram, Taapion, Ressort Imprint, Etruria Beat, From Another Mind, Möd3rn (and it's parent Skryptöm) and Exile. There's also plenty of releases on other labels as well, but they tend to be more sporadic and not as consistent as on those already mentioned.

Some specific artists include Glós, Kapoor, Amotik, Synthek, Boston 168, KAS:ST and Blind Observatory, just to name a few. A lot of Sandwell District is also in the same vein, especially all things Function; Berghain's A-Ton has released two retrospective Function compilations with most of his best output in this category. Referring to the last tracks that amazed you thread, Voidloss' Meat Hook Beauty (Rhapsody at the Miniclub Edit) is a proper ending track for a set containing this type of sound (what do you think, Steve? Blasphemy?).

I think this type of sound is actually starting to fade back into the background and (more mainstream) techno is starting to bend towards the harsher again, and there's been a constant trickle of noisy industrial stuff as well, like Tar Hallow and Pi Electronics. But I digress.

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:55 pm 
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dcom wrote:
Voidloss' Meat Hook Beauty (Rhapsody at the Miniclub Edit) is a proper ending track for a set containing this type of sound (what do you think, Steve? Blasphemy?).


Haha, no not blasphemy at all. I like to use some melody now and again.
I mean, I`m not sure this counts as trance, what we are talking about.
Techno has always had a melodic element, especially if we look right back to the detroit roots.
And techno, as repetitive music, has always been trance music, trance inducing.

In the early days trance and techno were a lot more blurred and crossed over.

Such as this very early classic example.


What became trance was essentially something with narrower boundaries. Offbeat emphasis, arpeggios, big major chord progressions.

But at it`s root, most techno is trance music.

I`m not sure what Trance New Wave even means. To me, all the stuff linked just seems to be techno.

I think newbies and millenials are so used pigeon holes with music genres, and also perhaps lack some knowledge of the music history. And techno has fallen in to this tedious trope of commercial music, where it moves through fashions and trends, rather than being continuously diverse, which further emphasises some idea of separation.

It`s just techno innit.

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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On one of my rare forrays into clubland this year.. I listened with interest to the warm up Djs, who appeared to be doing a laptop / traktor/ loopathon with some added stems of claps & percussion. I'd read about such things & that's what I believed it to be. It was all massive sub kick oompah oompah ( Steve V slang term) stuff. No real rhythm or groove apart from the 4/4 kick & maybe a hihat rattle loop swung to fuck in Ableton. Several white noise bursts.

Anyway.. there were one or 2 trancy tracks. I'd read about them too in some online article, referencing some kind of resurgence. Plodding subby, knocky kick track.. rattly hats, but with a euphoric tenancy arp on top. No groove again.. chords changing where you'd expect. Boring.

I remember being out in clubs where they played techhy trance. It was ok.. tolerable, but it predated the euphoric tiesto kinda sound.

Haven't listened to any if these tracks but i really think that they're not for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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I really like artists that oscillate between techno, deep house and trance. Gai Barone (trends trancy), Rick Pier O'Neil (trends techy), Luttrell (trends deep housey), that sort of thing

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Love whats happening in the trance and techno world, reminds of some of the tracks in the 90's where it was kind of blended in. People listed some good artists above already, Boston 168, I hate models, amotik. I would also check out Nthng, Exilles (they're a bit more on the techno side) Also check out sets from JOOF and airwave, all the old Bonzai guys. Tracks from those labels are still getting played today too like Yves Deruyter Back To Earth, and Netherworld from LSG (think I heard netherworld way too many times this year along with age of love)


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Squill wrote:
Love whats happening in the trance and techno world, reminds of some of the tracks in the 90's where it was kind of blended in. People listed some good artists above already, Boston 168, I hate models, amotik. I would also check out Nthng, Exilles (they're a bit more on the techno side) Also check out sets from JOOF and airwave, all the old Bonzai guys. Tracks from those labels are still getting played today too like Yves Deruyter Back To Earth, and Netherworld from LSG (think I heard netherworld way too many times this year along with age of love)


"The Age Of Love" was one of the very first tracks that people "officially" considered to be trance (and it still rocks 25 years later), but most of the big name guys that play these old trance tunes pretty much always play the same ones (Nina & The House Of House, for example), while there are truly some forgotten gems. A lot of those old trance tracks are, as you say, a lot closer to techno than what people consider to be trance nowadays.
I'm Belgian and my teenage years where in the 90's, so yeah, I'm still proud of some of those tracks from around 92 to 97 (though of course they weren't all from Belgium).

I once blew a set of speakers with "The Rebel" from Yves Deruyter (after the break still one of my all time favorite tracks) when I was still a naïve and young DJ. I used the bass EQ knob to turn it up to give huge "accents" to certain kicks, kind of bringing in an extra rhythm, so to say. The speakers didn't survive the fun. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Maybe some Chymera?


Check out some funk d'void stuff

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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WOLF! wrote:
Check out some funk d'void stuff


what a track! i loved that BITD, but i don't think it is done justice if there isn't a sub to flap your trousers when the duuun, dun, dun comes in.


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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BG++ wrote:
Check NTHNG’s new stuff , his last few 12’s and his album have been touching on this sound while still not exacting being trance . Seems to be a bit of trend now that started with djs playing tunes ironically to a full on trance revival. Mostly awful imo


Speculation is that Trancemaster (posted by OP) is in fact a NTHNG alias ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Being drunk, and Hades posting some old school trance... It thought I'd post some old skool, really really fucking shit pop trance.

Tunes like this were the nail in trance's shit fluo coloured Paul Oakenfold's perefcto coffin.

Oh man, I hate/d this tune


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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jordanneke wrote:
Being drunk, and Hades posting some old school trance...


I didn't, I mentioned a track or two,
but afaik, I never even posted a single video in here.
I know that if I started doing that, I'd be posting at least 5 to 10 video's of old school shit,
just like you would do, I presume... 8-) ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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ask Pedro,
if you want to hear an hour or two stuffed with old school trance,
I'll happily make a mix...
Fun (and in our case nostalgic) times ensured ! ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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Hades wrote:
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Being drunk, and Hades posting some old school trance...


I didn't, I mentioned a track or two,
but afaik, I never even posted a single video in here.


FUCK YOU being all correct and shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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jordanneke wrote:
FUCK YOU


can I take you up on that wishful thinking offer ? 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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 Post subject: Re: Trance new wave
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This is cheesy as all hell, but it`s still a classic, from 1996, Platipus was still a good label then.


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