Roman Poncet - Hydralic Jack synth

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Roman Poncet - Hydralic Jack synth

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Hey guys looking for some help.

I hate being 'that guy' asking for a how to but I really want to know if anyone has any guesses on how its created.
Ive tried so far with abletons analog using saw waves(both detuned and non detuned) with a bit of noise and playing with the resonance and envelope on the filter to create that chugging like sound, but got absoltely no where close.

youtu.be/gD3oipGLEdk

I also noticed something quite similar on Mattias' tool techno kit, but with less attack. (If youre willing to share Mattias)
https://mfsamples.bandcamp.com/album/mf ... techno-kit
around 00:25 ish.

Thanks guys for any help.
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Macca wrote: I also noticed something quite similar on Mattias' tool techno kit, but with less attack. (If youre willing to share Mattias)
https://mfsamples.bandcamp.com/album/mf ... techno-kit
around 00:25 ish.

Thanks guys for any help.
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Ableton's Analog doesn't have the fattest filters, what you need is a nice dirty analog-style lowpass or bandpass filter with some snappy envelope modulation. You can do this with any basic synth saw wave and Cytomic The Drop with a decent amount of drive. Try Operator, it has the filter models from The Drop. Some extra EQ and saturation afterwards helps to give it that really dirty filtered down sound.

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Brilliant thanks guys, will try some stuff tomorrow after work and report back.
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Sat for twenty minutes failed miserably :lol:
Dont think copying synthesis is my strong point..

For anyone who wants a laugh or can give me some critique,


Think it lacks the automation of the filter envelope and I dont think im getting the correct midi...
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You are really overthinking this based on that clip, the noise comes from the distortion.

With Operator:

1) play a basic minor 7th on a lower octave, maybe 4 or 5 short stabs per bar
2) basic saw wave oscillator, fairly quick attack & release
3) engage filter, any of the models will do, maybe 30-40% resonance, drive the shit out of the filter maybe 7-10db
4) filter down to somewhere around 300-700hz with a 24db slope, don't even need to fancy envelope
5) a bit of synced cutoff LFO modulation
6) add delay & reverb to taste
7) ???
8) profit

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Cheers man think this got me in a better ball park. Still quite far off, but I like setting myself little challenges like this to work on my synthesis knowledge, but I had no idea how to get that noise from the filter so thanks.

First part mattias second part mine.


Think I got the filter envelope a bit wrong but I had already bounced to audio by then, also sounds like a phaser on it??
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Sounds like you played the chord too high and the resonance is a bit too much and the envelope is a bit tight, there's this click on the beginning. Mattias' chord also has a much more bandpassed sound.

Here's my take, not 100% but I did in 3 minutes, it's literally just Operator, 7th chord saw wave with a 24db bandpass filter and a shit ton of drive and lo/hi pass EQ afterwards. No envelope modulation, the filter modulation I did by hand via clip automation.

https://clyp.it/nfhvtbxl


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