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Author:  Dilinger [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:37 pm ]
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Well none of my chanels are clipping there, so there's no problem right? Except the fact that I need a few sound lessons. Do you recommend putting a satson on every channel?

Author:  Lost to the Void [ Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:49 pm ]
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Well again..... you don't get the point, it's not about clipping. It's about consistency.

Yes Satson on every channel, buss on every buss.
There is a thread about it on here, probably on the classics forum.

Author:  P0607r0n [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:22 am ]
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I feel it's a bit intimidating for me to create new topic for this (I'm a new cunt) so I'll try to ask about it here... Do anyone of you know the way how to normalise your whole sample library?

Author:  Lost to the Void [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:45 am ]
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I know that wavelab does batch processing, so you can normalise your whole library as a batch.... if you really want to.

Author:  Dilinger [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:40 am ]
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Thanks for all the info, guess I'll be waiting for your guide

Author:  Mono-xID [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:27 pm ]
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Anyone can recommend a good free rms metering 64 bit vst?

Author:  Mattias [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:03 pm ]
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Mono-xID wrote:
Anyone can recommend a good free rms metering 64 bit vst?


You run SPAN don't you? There's a 64 bit version and an RMS meter included, set it to DBFS+3 and you're golden.

Author:  over9000 [ Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:52 pm ]
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lot of good info here, thx everyone

Author:  Dilinger [ Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:38 pm ]
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Just re-read the gain staging thread in the classics, and there's almost nothing mentioned about the inter channel gain, basically more about the relation of tge channel peaks. As far as I can understand you Void, gain staging is all about the signal in each channel, and to be adjusted per channel and has nothing to do with the relationship of different elements. That's just up to taste, bearing you don't clip the master.

Author:  Lost to the Void [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:24 am ]
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Gain stage is exactly as I described above.
In long form gain staging is controlling the gain at each stage of the signal path.
Using channel plugins such as Satins helps get the very first gain stage correct, which sets the solid base for the rest of the chain.
It is the same as the gain control on a hardware mixer.
That and it helps working to a consistent level standard, which includes the master channel.
Channel levels also play in to this as they feed to the master, but if you are gain staging your busses, master bus etc and working to a consistent standard then it's not an issue (and neither would clipping be).

Author:  Dilinger [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:49 am ]
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Ok, thanks again man.

Author:  Dilinger [ Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:09 pm ]
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I got the freeG and read into sound/loudness some more so it's starting to make much more sense. One more question though, I now put the freeG at the start of the chain, right after the sound source and set at -13db RMS with a peak of -9db for the kick as a start. Is it good practice to put another freeG at the and to atune the signal once again, or just do it with comp output gain? Folowing the signal chain so it's consistent, but sometimes there's a few db or less of difference at the end of the chain.

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