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I just watched a video of ANNA mixing on the new MODEL 1.
It looks pretty awesome and intuitive with some great features different from the standard pioneer gear i'm used to.

Have any of you used one?
Is it worth the 2500?

Is there any other mixers out there that have new features that are different from the standard?

https://playdifferently.org/model-1/

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Thought they were more than that.
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I wouldnt pay the money for one. The price tag is a big reason it flopped as well. I was so underwhelmed when i realised that all youre getting is some fancy filter controls pretty much...


Give me a Xone 92 any day.. Less than half the price of the model 1 as well.

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RWise wrote:I wouldnt pay the money for one. The price tag is a big reason it flopped as well. I was so underwhelmed when i realised that all youre getting is some fancy filter controls pretty much...


Give me a Xone 92 any day.. Less than half the price of the model 1 as well.

No brainer.
Have you heard the Model 1? I have some experience with high end DJ mixers and let's just say that once you hear those it's hard to go back...

Dunno if this relates to Model 1 specifically though, I have no experience with one. Anyways, there's a local underground club which has an E&S DJR400 and a nice A&H and I MUCH rather play with the DJR400, given the chance...
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The Model 1 is obviousy aimed at clubs, not at peoples bedrooms, hence the price. That new Function 1 mixer also seems nice and it's even more expensive. I like Xone but the Model 1 layout seems really nice to me. And of course, as Barfunkel has said, the Xones are not exactly hi-fi mixers, I mean just look at their price and then all the features and shit that's in there, they can't be.

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RWise wrote:I wouldnt pay the money for one. The price tag is a big reason it flopped as well. I was so underwhelmed when i realised that all youre getting is some fancy filter controls pretty much...


Give me a Xone 92 any day.. Less than half the price of the model 1 as well.

No brainer.
did it flop? it was only ever for a very niche market, like how high end rotary mixers are for a niche market. i've seen a few people mention they have one in interviews, but yeah they aren't common.
like McClaren cars, it is more of a engineering project than a commercial project. i doubt many top tier djs would buy one for themself in order to be comfortable with it and then ask for it on their rider. chris liebing got his for nowt as he was a tester/richies mate.

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I'd love to have one for my hybrid live sets, but I just couldn't justify the $3,400 USD. I never played on one, but I setup an ableton rack and controller to duplicate the functionally to get a feel for it. The LPF + "Contour" EQ is certainly novel, but could do with a bypass switch... too many knobs to zero out quickly. I have heard one, and it's got that creamy A&H analog sound I love (its made by A&H). I ended up with a xone:PX5 and couldn't be happier. That 6th channel and second filter would be nice, though not nice enough to justify an extra $2,200! The 5 switchable USB channels more than make up for it. Cheers!

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I'd buy one if I could afford it, but I just love expensive stuff, lol. I like the drive per channel part. Very cool, would like to see that elsewhere. I would miss a crossfader, TBH.
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do you actually need a mixer that does all this stupid fancy extra stuff? rather hear a banging set on a shitty plastic dj controller than a shit set on a ten grand setup

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lauren wrote:do you actually need a mixer that does all this stupid fancy extra stuff? rather hear a banging set on a shitty plastic dj controller than a shit set on a ten grand setup
Why do professional instrumentalists play on expensive, hand-made instruments worth thousands, rather than cheaper, yet still functional consumer options? Obviously, one can play or make music with anything but the notion that one ought to not even try to produce something better because "good enough" is enough is ridiculous.

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Stradivarius are stupid
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dubdub wrote:
lauren wrote:do you actually need a mixer that does all this stupid fancy extra stuff? rather hear a banging set on a shitty plastic dj controller than a shit set on a ten grand setup
Why do professional instrumentalists play on expensive, hand-made instruments worth thousands, rather than cheaper, yet still functional consumer options? Obviously, one can play or make music with anything but the notion that one ought to not even try to produce something better because "good enough" is enough is ridiculous.
True... Kinda.
But that's musicians you are talking about.

DJs play fucking records.
More complicated DJ sets sound mostly like wankery whenever I hear it.
You don't need to justify your job and be seen to be doing more than you are, just play interesting music, stop fucking about.
Liebing sets for example, guy is chopping shit to pieces, makes it sound unbelievably boring.
Just play good tunes.
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But guys like downloadedforRichie and Liebing are going out of their way to add a bunch of unessecary shit to their setups. This is just a DJ mixer and all the additions it makes seem entirely reasonable and relevant to regular DJing to me. It's not like it has a fucking flanger build it. I was mostly contesting the idea that there is no point in building better sounding mixers with more features because the existing ones are enough. I always thought it was kind of baffling that clubs can have these insanely expensive soundsystems and then everything goes through these prosumer-grade mixers.

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Most DJ mixers lack in sound quality. I don't expect this to be any better, it just seems to have more features.
Rotaries tend to have a better signal path.
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Lost to the Void wrote:Most DJ mixers lack in sound quality. I don't expect this to be any better, it just seems to have more features.
Rotaries tend to have a better signal path.
For the price I would hope it has a better signal path :lol:

According to reviews, the new Formula sound / Funktion 1 mixer at least supposedly has a better signal path than Allen & Heath.

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I hate A&H mixers so I guess I would hate this unnecessary mixer also.

Most DJs are deaf SOTBs anyways.

Give me a RANE MP2015 over this gimmick for Peachy Hawpins wannabies anyday.

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dubdub wrote:
lauren wrote:do you actually need a mixer that does all this stupid fancy extra stuff? rather hear a banging set on a shitty plastic dj controller than a shit set on a ten grand setup
Why do professional instrumentalists play on expensive, hand-made instruments worth thousands, rather than cheaper, yet still functional consumer options? Obviously, one can play or make music with anything but the notion that one ought to not even try to produce something better because "good enough" is enough is ridiculous.
i never said good enough, i said better - subjective opinion aside on what makes someone good or bad, expensive gear wont make you a better player/dj/whatever. besides, price isn't equal to quality. you can't argue that some rich kid with those solid gold technica's is the best dj in the world because they cost the most.

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dubdub wrote:
Lost to the Void wrote:Most DJ mixers lack in sound quality. I don't expect this to be any better, it just seems to have more features.
Rotaries tend to have a better signal path.
For the price I would hope it has a better signal path :lol:

According to reviews, the new Formula sound / Funktion 1 mixer at least supposedly has a better signal path than Allen & Heath.
People rave about that Formula Sound over here, a LOT. Haven't had the chance to play with one yet unfortunately.
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