Mattias Fridell - Techno Sample Pack

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Hi,

I've posted this on a few places already, but just incase anyone has missed it. There are some really cool samples in this pack. They all come from his tracks / personal samples.

For me, I really enjoyed hearing the sounds in isolation as a reference. But theres some really cool stuff in there. Its compact - but has some really cool sounds in it. The bass loops especially made my ears prick up.

Well worth checking out to see how someone like Fridell goes about making his sounds.

This was originally posted on Bedroom Producers Blog.. but the link is now dead. Mattias has very kindly agreed to let us host it here.. so here you are. You should find an attachment beneath:

Fridell_Samples_Mini_Kit.rar
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http://soundcloud.com/fridell

EDIT: 30th July 2013 - Mattias has completed a new sample pack. Follow this link for details, previews, bandcamp & downloads etc.. http://www.subsekt.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3171

The Free sample pack contains all exclusive sounds from my personal sound library that I’ve built during the years. Half of the samples
are taken from various projects and the other half is specially created for this mini package and those sounds have never been included in my productions. The samples are peaking at approx -4dB to give you some headroom for further processing with the sounds (unlike most commercial sample packs where all samples are heavily processed at 0dB and give you no real room to process the samples
further).

The samples are processed with several effects and synthesis to give them a unique character suitable for all kinds of electronic music really though the main focus for me has been Techno in various shapes. I choose to not include drum loops In this package because I personally find single-shot sounds very more appealing for production, however one folder contains loops and that is the bass / bottom folder, simply because its extremely hard to create nice movement and dynamics inn this region with one-shot samples
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So.. I'm a nosey bastard.

I got in touch with Mattias & asked him how he went about making the samples. He responded with some killer tips!!

Such a nice fella. I chatted with him for a bit & he was bang on. Fair play 8-)
hello

Very happy you like the samples, thanks. They're apparently pretty popular.
I'll gladly answer as good as I can, about half of these samples were cut from many of my previous productions when
I re-visited the tracks so I can't remember all of it I'm afraid. Would it be ok if I write it down and you copy it or something to the forum, I usually try
to avoid forums and similar . Soundcloud & Facebook takes enough time these days haha!

About the sub basses, the process I use is a method I go back to frequently when I produce:

I start with a kick drum (with a bit of decay cant be too short) playing 4 x 4 or 2 x 4 (or a rhythmic pattern, changing tone and pitch on the individual hits is nice also) then I send a Reverb or Delay (with a bit of modulation options) to the kick channel.
After that I make reverb channel mono and let the Kick slave the Send channel via a side-chained Gate effect. Playing with Pre-delay and Feedback timers as well as
diffusion and balance on the reverb is a good idea to get stuff moving and to start getting a groove out of it. The reverb follows the kicks tone and accent and it can be good to change the kick also to get some other results and go form there. Usually I tend to EQ away pretty much bass form the Kick & also cut away from of the muddy frequencies from the reverb. From here on I route both the kick channel and the reverb send channel to a sub / bus group channel and add a filter, (I personally like the Naive LPF Filter for this, it rounds transients and edges of very smooth and sounds fat & warm.) then low-pass the whole package to around 120-200 Hz, depends a little. If I get too much "kick" sound around 200 Hz or so I low pass a little more or adjust with envelopes or, if possible, adjust the attack of the kick drum and adjust the gain or level of the kick so it doesn't take too much space in the bassey package. So far so good. Now here comes the reason why I removed pretty much bass on the kick earlier, on the bus channel I add some insert effects. Like another EQ and Saturation tool to give the bass a new kind of tone or feeling, very often I like to use the Bootsy Nasty LP plugin for this since it got both EQ & Saturation. I boost somewhere between 40-130 Hz with the wide Q filter active and cut some bass if it sounds too much, and add the saturation by +6 dB or more depending what sounds right at the moment. Obviously it all depends on the kick and reverb used what kind of freqs sounds good to boost / cut and saturate but thats the gift of it. So now when I have myself a nice fat bass sound I wanna create some nice movement with it and might go back to the kick and reprogram its rhythm or behavior, as well as the reverb. I add the "real" kick drum that the track will contain and make the bass and kick fit well with each-other (sometimes it works good to add another gate to sidechain the bus channel which contains all the bass with the main kick) with EQ:ing or filters etc. Thats it....
Now you could probably just do this in a less messy way, like low-pass the send channel the reverb is on right away and stuff like that but I found that the way I do this you cut away the natural "boring" bottom end in the sounds and add some fat saturated harmonics sculptured with a nice low pass filter which fits very well with the type of kicks I like to use for my music.

Now theres many other ways I use to create bottom but this is the method I use mostly and in the sample pack its this method to 100%. You can also replace the kick with a synth bass playing short notes or long legatos but with an LFO that works on the cut-off to create slopes in the synth to give more room for the reverb. I used this for at-least one loop in the sample pack, its marked as MS20 bass or something.

Right I need to get back here but I hope that works for now, I'll comment on some of the other sounds in the pack later when I have time. In general for all my sounds I use in my music you can say that I use very much processing in a careful way if that makes sense? Haha. The source is nothing special, its the usual 909, 808 sounds and synths and other classic drum-machines. Today im very much in-the-box based, though I have some outboard i cant get rid of, like some Mackie mixers, Lexicon reverbs, Yamaha delays and synths, stuff like that. I don't use much compression, if any at all....I used to ride those compressors in my music but these days I often skip that and I find working more closely with filters, EQing and saturation on individual groups and channels appeals more to me.

Ok speak laters!

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And then got in touch with more.. :)

About the other samples in my pack:
Most of the percussion, bassdrums and elements been created by layering different sources of sound. Nothing special yet again.
Been using much filters & EQ to cut and edit in different regions of the frequency spectrum here, one sound contains between 2-5 different sound sources (Which also requires 2-5 different sound spectrums, bass, low mid, mid, high mid and highs simply).
Drums like 909, 808 and similar classic machines, as well as synth sounds, been used to create these. I work much with phase linear EQ for this process since its easy to mess up the phase when layering so many sounds and making one package of it. As well as M/S EQ:ing to make sure the bottom really is mono and just some sparse spread on the sides when needed. Much pitch shifting, ring modulation, FM filtering, distortion & just about any type of processing of the individual spectrum region is used (without overdoing it) to give the layers some nice tone and character. At this point I toss all the layers in the same bus channel so I have them all in a package, then I use a transparent EQ to cut away lots of bass (and low-mid when needed) usually between -20 to -30 dB. From here I add lost of color in the regions I took away by boosting and saturating with other tools, like the Nasty LF plugin from Bootsy. Brilliant piece of ones & zeros that one! Its good at reshaping the bass spectrum and create a whole new character to it. Lots of boost while you can cut at the same time, and add a brilliant saturation.

Another thing I've been using (more then transparent EQ) is this method. You know the PSP Vintage Warmer right? Hehe, everyone uses this these days. But I found that this device works best the opposite way of its standard way of working. Instead of warming the sound with it....you kill and suck all life out of it with it! It's very simple too, turn the Drive knob all the way down to -42 dB, then you can take away the bass to. Excellent tool to suck the life out of anything! It makes it extremely easy to reshape the character of the sound with saturation and dynamic EQ:ing. It needs lots of boosting and one gotta be careful here to not destroy the sound. But once used to it it works great in all cases. This is the most common way I create new sounds for myself. I can sit for days without actually producing any music but instead create new sounds this way, or hammer my synths, add effects and experiment while constantly recording what I do. I can re-visit these files and cut away great parts from it and keep processing it further or leave it as they are.

Hope that helps a bit as well to keep the ideas and inspiration flowing :)

Best
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There's some savage bits and pieces in there alright, fair play! It was nice of him to go into detail (and owning a few of Friddell's releases, it's nice to know that you can be helpful and sound while sounding unreal, he makes some killer tracks imo)

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Man that explanation was complicated .... I tried to follow it but failed miserably!

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send a kick to a send.. get a nice delay.. saturation.. reverb.. eq.. compress.. get a riddim goin - bounce -- then fk about

or something roughly like that :)

I started doing exactly what he said, but after a few mns, I'd got something pretty fkn cool, so I just went off doing my own thing..

I was using the PSP84 / 85 for the delay and got some nice rhythms from a single kick and a bit of tweakin with EQ's. Its cool, cos when you bounce the file, you can then go into the audio & find the sweet spot. Like shortening it to a bar, or 1/2 bar, whatever.

I'd been doing stuff like that anyway.. but its class to have a chat about stuff & see what someone else does. Makes you realise that you are on the right track :)
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ICN wrote: I started doing exactly what he said, but after a few mns, I'd got something pretty fkn cool, so I just went off doing my own thing..

This. Experimentation is always crucial.

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Ok thanks man ... I'll give it another bash!

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+1 to experimentation. I told him that when I got back to him & he was like "yeah - cool - thats what I was hoping for.."

Its funny all the people that ask - how do you get the synth sound of this, or that.. We all ask that sh!t of course, but you know when people what to know the technique & understand the process, rather than just grabbing the .fxb file and fk off into the night forever. I love trying to understand how stuff works. Theres an equation to everything & its good to know the basics so you can find your tangent. Fkkn about is good, but I'd much rather get in touch with someone & say, how did you go about making that, then think - cool: I have the samples, I'm sorted now - lol

If you are gonna use the Filter Delay in live to do this.. the presets are a good place to start. Then jogging the bands around to get something rhythmical. Dont forget to stick in a Utility on Mono at some point in it, preferrably after the delay/reverb or how ever you do it.
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is this applied to the track kick, or is this a separate kick that's mashed into a bass with effects?

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Kick channel. Kick in simpler. One kick for 2 bars. Make channel Sends only. Cant hear kick now.
Route kick 100% to send channel.
Add your fx.. make something nice and rhythmical.
Resample it. Maybe do a few different versions. Make a different kick pattern, add one or 2 more. Mess about with pitch / tone / and have the velocities of the different kicks triggering them.
Resample them.

Then:

Make a clean Kick channel.. 4 to the floor. Find a nice section in your resampled audio.. experiment with shortening the loop in the clip to find the sweet spot. Sidechain it. BANG! :)
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good tips man. just wanted to say thanks for it. goonna give it a try

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Glad my samples could please!
Music Page: http://www.facebook.com/Mattias.Fridell.Music
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I loved the samples, but all that wonderful information was even better!!! Thanks so much... also, wicked forum lads!

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+1

They're wicked - and Mattias is a gentleman for giving an insight into how he works. Fair play :)
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As it seems it goes, I started following but kinda drifted off... new tune in the works though! Cheers! :D

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Interesting read. Some nice tips to test on a fridaynight and drive myself mad with endless loops&things :)
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Cool.
It's nice to hear you guys drift of and get ideas from starting to follow the first pointers, thats what I wanna hear!
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really interesting stuff.

i had a vaguely similar idea using low toms, but will experiment tonight with kick samples and see what i come up with.

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Thanks very much matthias, you have some absolutely top drawer productions and its great to hear about your methods thanks very much!!


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