What direction are you moving in

[Amøbe]

I mean production wise (so that's why I went here instead of the dialog page)

Over the last couple of months I've been wanting to go more towards a more hypnotic and atmospheric sound (been listening to a lot of sandwell district), and moving a bit away from what I've been doing lately. So I was just wondering if anyone else is feeling intrigued by new areas to explore, and how you want to go there?

[Lost to the Void]

I don`t really have one direction as I have aliases that do different things.

With Voidloss I am trying to find ways to subvert the 170bpm paradigm in drum and bass, especially in terms of changing rhythmic structure and emphasis away from the Drum and Bass template of rhythms (Amen brother, Think, Hot pants, Apache, Funky Drummer etc etc) and into a different area where the beat emphasis can change away from just the 2 and 4. Also flip the script towards kick drum pinned beats over snare drum pinned beats.
Along with that I`m trying to subvert the wub, get the same effect but by different means. And as usual with most of what I do now, I`m trying to generate acousmatic sounds rather than "synthy" sounding stuff or "real" sounding stuff.

My 2 other main projects.... One of them (industrial/techno project) I am looking to create really emotional phrases but I want them to be as degraded and deconstructed as possible without losing coherence, so there is juxtaposition of formal melody and harmony with textural chaos. However I may morph this project entirely away from techno towards a different genre, there`s an upcoming vinyl release for it, if I still like techno when it comes out, I`ll continue it as a techno-ish project, but as I am falling out of love with techno, that may well change.
And the other (experimental/industrial/doom/noise) is probably going to go in a more "song" like direction, possibly with more vocals, with the idea of getting a live performance together that isn`t DJ booth or even nightclub centric. But what I do next depends a lot on how the next release goes, and if I can get the label on board with marketing following stuff in a non-clubland direction.

[Amøbe]

I don`t really have one direction as I have aliases that do different things.

With Voidloss I am trying to find ways to subvert the 170bpm paradigm in drum and bass, especially in terms of changing rhythmic structure and emphasis away from the Drum and Bass template of rhythms (Amen brother, Think, Hot pants, Apache, Funky Drummer etc etc) and into a different area where the beat emphasis can change away from just the 2 and 4. Also flip the script towards kick drum pinned beats over snare drum pinned beats.
Along with that I`m trying to subvert the wub, get the same effect but by different means. And as usual with most of what I do now, I`m trying to generate acousmatic sounds rather than "synthy" sounding stuff or "real" sounding stuff.

My 2 other main projects.... One of them (industrial/techno project) I am looking to create really emotional phrases but I want them to be as degraded and deconstructed as possible without losing coherence, so there is juxtaposition of formal melody and harmony with textural chaos. However I may morph this project entirely away from techno towards a different genre, there`s an upcoming vinyl release for it, if I still like techno when it comes out, I`ll continue it as a techno-ish project, but as I am falling out of love with techno, that may well change.
And the other (experimental/industrial/doom/noise) is probably going to go in a more "song" like direction, possibly with more vocals, with the idea of getting a live performance together that isn`t DJ booth or even nightclub centric. But what I do next depends a lot on how the next release goes, and if I can get the label on board with marketing following stuff in a non-clubland direction.

Different aliases seems like a really liberating idea! Looking forward to hear more Voidloss stuff - I'm really into what you are doing with the acousmatic sounds

[msl]

Harder. Chicago flavor house/techno. The times demand it so it seems, war, recession, etc.

[juodas]

romanian minimal, micro minimal, half step minimal and a bit of dnb

[mainst09]

romanian minimal, micro minimal, half step minimal and a bit of dnb

Yep, love me some romanian minimal. Rhadoo is one of my fav DJs

[Amøbe]

romanian minimal, micro minimal, half step minimal and a bit of dnb

Yep, love me some romanian minimal. Rhadoo is one of my fav DJs

People have been telling me for like five years or so that there are some great romanian minimal things going on - I know absolutely nothing about the scene, so what would be a great place to start?

[mervv]

I'm pretty involved in my local scene, playing live in my city or others once or twice a month. I've noticed that over the last two years this has had an impact on what I make at home. The stuff I'm writing to play live continues to trend more towards psychedelic (not like psytrance, but lots of disorienting effects: granular delays, abusing vocoders, etc.) and very low-end oriented, often not 4-on-the-floor but still placing a premium on being very dance-able. I haven't yet posted any of it anywhere, but the response in a party setting has been good.

This has created a bit of an issue because I'm still largely working through my back catalogue of tracks to release on a small label with some friends, and most of it is more "conventional." You can hear one of those EPs in my signature.

The stuff I'm making and playing out more now sounds good at home and on club systems, but sometimes I'm worried if it's releasable/translatable because the frequency content is often weird, with huge gaps in the spectrum and peaks all over the place on account of the kind of processing I'm using. Additionally, it just doesn't really gel with what I've released so far/what's coming out soon.

To further complicate things, I have a whole folder on my computer titled "noodles" that are much simpler, sentimental-sounding tracks, kind of giegling-esque, almost a bit twee sometimes. I really like these, but they don't fit what I want to do live or what people expect from me. I often make things like this, almost as a form of stress relief. I've considered coming up with a different name and publishing them on the side, just for fun.

On the whole I make a wide variety of stuff, and if it's heavy enough and I think it has a place in the dynamic of a live performance, I'll work it in, even if it doesn't totally fit with the sound I'm mainly trying to push. A good example would be the track with the Aretha Franklin sample I posted in "what you're working on" a couple months back. I like to wind up and back down over the course of a 1.5-2 hours live set, so there's room for all kinds of material. But I definitely feel I've started to settle into a characteristic sound that I want to pursue, at least for a while.

[mervv]

Harder. Chicago flavor house/techno. The times demand it so it seems, war, recession, etc.

It's a compelling sound. Is the track in your signature an example of what you've been doing? Sounds great.

[dubdub]

Trying to sound a bit weirder, I guess. Less following the "rules" of what is acceptabl in production. Flangers on the master, reverb on subs and so on.

[msl]

t's a compelling sound. Is the track in your signature an example of what you've been doing? Sounds great.

Thanks mervv, yeah just posted that as an example of my sound in the last months. Was not producing for the last 2-3 years due to work, so getting back into again. Harder sound coming through. Hopefully get them pressed later in the year.

[ozias_leduc]

Trying to sound a bit weirder, I guess. Less following the "rules" of what is acceptabl in production. Flangers on the master, reverb on subs and so on.

+1 for weirder. Techno feels soooo stale and conservative to me these days - I just want to make it weird and explore those emotions between emotions. Less "cool", more intruige.

I am basically on a "break" at present though, decided to take a step back for a few months and learn Cycling 74 Max (something I've been meaning to do for 10 years+ )

[msl]

...but as I am falling out of love with techno, that may well change.

Is that even possible? sure the desire comes and goes, in periods. I fell out of love with it 10 years ago with all the commercial bumcode stuff. But I'll always love techno...

[Lost to the Void]

...but as I am falling out of love with techno, that may well change.

Is that even possible? sure the desire comes and goes, in periods. I fell out of love with it 10 years ago with all the commercial bumcode stuff. But I'll always love techno...

I honestly think I'm done with it. There's barely anything coming out that doesn't sound utterly derivative. The mass commercialisation has caused all kinds of mediocrity, and mainstream music world stuff. All the social media crap has ruined the scene too. The gear porn thing has got crazy. There's all kinds of factors that just have me almost in disgust at every aspect of it.
I don't listen to techno outside of all the mastering work I do. Don't go to any techno events, stopped taking bookings. Stopped making it. When I hear any techno, all I hear is trope and it all just feels meaningless.

25 years I've been involved in Techno, I've never felt like this before.

Whereas the music I am listening to now and making has me super excited to the point where my head is exploding with possibilities, and the scene seems way more focused on the music, not the gear, not tropes, not Instagram record bag in airport gate photos.
I genuinely think I'm done with techno, it feels like a dying genre to me.

[juodas]

romanian minimal, micro minimal, half step minimal and a bit of dnb

Yep, love me some romanian minimal. Rhadoo is one of my fav DJs

People have been telling me for like five years or so that there are some great romanian minimal things going on - I know absolutely nothing about the scene, so what would be a great place to start?

there's a lot of amazing artists, check Ion ludwig, vid, arapu, unknown artist, i really like how they approach releases, limited vinyl no repress and so on, check Barac mixes they're amazing, guy is blending for decks at the same time, for me it's a trip music honestly, it's like psytrance but on 124 .
talking about tutorials, ruffin studio, pheek, distiled noise, underground beats, last two are approaching more housy stuff

[speen]

I've recently dusted off my electric guitar and am about to head out to buy a western electro-acoustic guitar now

fuck all that boom boom repetitive crap

[Amøbe]

Yep, love me some romanian minimal. Rhadoo is one of my fav DJs

People have been telling me for like five years or so that there are some great romanian minimal things going on - I know absolutely nothing about the scene, so what would be a great place to start?

there's a lot of amazing artists, check Ion ludwig, vid, arapu, unknown artist, i really like how they approach releases, limited vinyl no repress and so on, check Barac mixes they're amazing, guy is blending for decks at the same time, for me it's a trip music honestly, it's like psytrance but on 124 .
talking about tutorials, ruffin studio, pheek, distiled noise, underground beats, last two are approaching more housy stuff

Thanks man gonna check those out!

[Amøbe]

I've recently dusted off my electric guitar and am about to head out to buy a western electro-acoustic guitar now

fuck all that boom boom repetitive crap

haha, I always have a side of me that just what to sit and play Roy Orbinson songs on my guitar

[over9000]

I dont think iam moving conciously with my music
For me it is a ventile for stuff and emotions i cant talk about and i think i can express stuff more and more, although iam never 100 percent happy eith the end result

[juodas]

I dont think iam moving conciously with my music
For me it is a ventile for stuff and emotions i cant talk about and i think i can express stuff more and more, although iam never 100 percent happy eith the end result

Don't focus on one genre, make some tracks with different bpms, and later on comeback and try different appeoach with a techno style, you will see amazing things can happen )